Time Nick Message 14:53 pdurbin is "Amazon Linux OS" a thing? is it based on Ubuntu? CentOS? /cc semiosis 14:54 semiosis @lucky amazon linux 14:54 semiosis ?! 14:54 semiosis http://aws.amazon.com/amazon-linux-ami/ 14:55 semiosis yes, it's an RPM distro, perhaps centos derived, i'm not sure about the exact lineage 14:58 semiosis i still think ubuntu is the best linux for ec2, and you can run the exact same thing on your own machine in a VM, whereas Amazon Linux runs only in EC2 14:58 semiosis although I suppose you could rip the boot image and try to boot that locally, it's not supported 14:59 semiosis see also, https://www.exratione.com/2014/08/do-not-use-amazon-linux/ 15:15 mhayden the amazon linux distro carries most of the stuff from centos but has some extra packages / newer packages 15:15 mhayden and they mess with the kernel 15:15 mhayden i'm biased, but using amazon linux feels like you're locking yourself in 15:16 mhayden unless you're heavily into immutable infrastructure ;) 15:36 pdurbin ok, so Amazon Linux OS is a thing and it's RPM based. Thanks. That's what I thought when I saw RPMs, yum, and EPEL mentioned at http://aws.amazon.com/amazon-linux-ami/faqs/ 15:37 pdurbin but I hear what you're saying about lock in 16:04 hydrajump pdurbin: sometimes using Amazon Linux is the way to go for instance if you need to use GPUs which some AWS instances types support. Doing it with say Ubuntu is a PITA and usually doesn't work. 16:22 semiosis hydrajump: good point! 16:22 semiosis i gave up trying to get the GPU working in ubuntu lol 16:23 pdurbin ok. I don't need performance though. I just need easy hosting. maybe I should try Heroku 16:24 semiosis pdurbin: hosting for what? 16:25 pdurbin Django apps 16:25 semiosis or elastic beanstalk... http://docs.aws.amazon.com/elasticbeanstalk/latest/dg/create-deploy-python-django.html 16:26 semiosis that's amazon's alternative to heroku... it's ec2 with amazon linux under the hood but you dont need to see that 16:28 hydrajump pdurbin: like semiosis said if you just want to host you django apps and not worry about all the underlying stuff then heroku or elastic beanstalk are probably better. If you are interested in managing the server etc than ec2 will give you all the control you desire. 16:29 pdurbin I don't want control. I want easy. :) 16:30 hydrajump hehe then look at those PaaS services that will let you deploy with git like heroku and elastic beanstalk 16:30 pdurbin prologic: you're a Python guy. Any thoughts? 16:33 pdurbin hydrajump: not much about databases on that page but I gather I could use one on elastic beanstalk 16:34 pdurbin ok, more info here looks like: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/elasticbeanstalk/latest/dg/using-features.managing.db.html 16:35 pdurbin http://docs.aws.amazon.com/elasticbeanstalk/latest/dg/create-deploy-python-rds.html#create-deploy-python-rds-newdb 16:36 pdurbin oh good, beanstalk mentioned here at least: https://wiki.harvard.edu/confluence/display/HUITArch/Standardization+of+Instance+Components 16:37 hydrajump pdurbin: yeah with elastic beanstalk you can hook up your python app to a database using Amazon's RDS service and use mysql, postgres and some other DB I forget. No MongoDB. 16:38 pdurbin we are not so fancy to use mongo yet :) 16:38 hydrajump hehe 16:52 pdurbin maybe I'll add AWS to http://crimsonfu.github.io/topics :) 19:21 bene https://hub.openshift.com/quickstarts/72-django <- openshift has django support 19:38 pdurbin bene: ah. thanks! 19:40 pdurbin https://www.pythonanywhere.com/details/django_hosting 19:40 pdurbin I heard about that at http://www.talkpythontome.com/episodes/show/10/bringing-python-to-the-masses-with-hosting-and-devops-at-pythonanywhere 20:59 prologic pdurbin, think about? 21:44 pdurbin_m prologic: should I host Django apps on Heroku? the goal is minimal fuss 21:45 pdurbin_m JoeJulian: in town for the summit? 21:46 pdurbin_m semiosis: last time we grabbed beers and you guys gave me gluster schwag :) 21:46 semiosis that was fun. too bad the heat lost that night iirc 21:54 pdurbin_m semiosis: are you going to be around? nominally I'm cleared for a geeks night out 21:54 semiosis nope, not this time. 21:55 pdurbin_m mhayden: ^^ 21:55 semiosis would love to get back to boston some time 21:56 pdurbin_m getting some consistently nice weather finally 22:01 semiosis ooh 72/61 that does sound nice 22:54 bene pdurbin: when's your geeks night out? 23:01 pdurbin bene: not sure but mhayden is coming to town this weekend. and codex and I might go to http://wiki.mako.cc/Grendel%27s_Den_on_Sundays some day. maybe we should go this Sunday night 23:01 bene i can't make it this sunday for grendels 23:01 bene but i'm down for that some time 23:03 pdurbin maybe I'll try to get out for TWO geek nights