Time Nick Message 13:28 pdurbin to collapse double spaces into one... match any number of double spaces and replace with a single space: sed 's/ */ /g' 14:59 pdurbin crimsonfubot: google make curl follow a redirect 15:00 crimsonfubot pdurbin: php - Make curl follow redirects? - Stack Overflow: <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3519939/make-curl-follow-redirects>; cURL - Frequently Asked Questions: <http://curl.haxx.se/docs/faq.html>; cURL - How To Use: <http://curl.haxx.se/docs/manpage.html>; How do I handle 302 redirects with curl? - Twitter Development ...: <http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development- (2 more messages) 15:00 pdurbin ah, curl -L 15:01 pdurbin thanks, crimsonfubot 15:29 pdurbin Itkovian: know anything about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TORQUE_Resource_Manager ? 15:29 Itkovian pdurbin: we're using that 15:29 pdurbin \o/ 15:29 Itkovian together wioth Moab 15:31 pdurbin linking some guys here :) hopefully they'll /join 15:37 pdurbin Itkovian: is it awesome? 15:37 Itkovian it works 15:37 Itkovian well, except for 4.x, there are some issues with that version :-p 15:37 pdurbin tell me about your troubles 15:40 semiosis @channelstats 15:40 crimsonfubot semiosis: Error: "channelstats" is not a valid command. 15:40 semiosis :( 15:40 pdurbin semiosis: @ is a shortcut for crimsonfubot 15:41 pedmon yo 15:41 pdurbin pedmon: welcome! 15:41 semiosis yeah, and channelstats is a command for crimsonfubot, when the channelstats plugin is loaded :) 15:41 pdurbin semiosis: oh 15:41 semiosis @load channelstats 15:41 crimsonfubot semiosis: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. 15:41 semiosis crimsonfubot: i know, i know 15:41 pdurbin semiosis: ssh! let's talk schedulers 15:41 crimsonfubot semiosis: Error: "i" is not a valid command. 15:41 semiosis haha 15:42 semiosis schedulers? 15:43 pdurbin Itkovian: you like schedulers 15:43 pdurbin pedmon: so do you 15:44 Itkovian I do? 15:44 Itkovian I said we use it 15:44 pdurbin heh 15:45 pedmon true schedulers are awesome... :P 15:45 pedmon more like a necessary evil 15:46 pedmon we use LSF here 15:46 pedmon what do other people use? 15:47 pdurbin "Cluster Resources, Inc. describes it as open-source" wtf. "describes it as"? from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TORQUE_Resource_Manager 15:47 pdurbin whorka: you have a scheduler. but you're idle according to pidgin 15:48 pdurbin semiosis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_scheduler 15:50 semiosis right 15:54 pdurbin Itkovian: no plans to change schedulers, i assume? 15:54 Itkovian nope 15:54 pdurbin that's probably praise enough :) 16:05 whorka oh, hey. back from a meeting. Condor scheduler representing here. 16:05 Itkovian we're quite happy with moab 16:05 pdurbin whorka: you stickin' with condor? 16:05 Itkovian and their support is good enough 16:05 whorka Condor fits our present use case pretty well. 16:08 pdurbin i'm actually confused about moab vs. torque. but i can go look it up 16:09 pdurbin oh! oh! you schedulers guys should all subscribe to this podcast: RCE an HPC Podcast - http://www.rce-cast.com 16:09 pdurbin whorka: great name, eh? ;) 16:10 Itkovian pdurbin: torque is what allocates resources and it uses moab to decide which jobs to schedule at what time 16:11 pdurbin hmm, ok. so you pretty much need both 16:11 whorka oh they have a HUBzero! I wanted to try that. 16:12 pdurbin crimsonfubot: lucky hubzero 16:12 crimsonfubot pdurbin: http://hubzero.org/ 17:57 pdurbin "P.s. You are indeed a hacker -- I mean the good way. Cool!" :) 18:56 pdurbin boegel: you missed a bit of chatter about schedulers :) ^^ 18:58 * boegel dives into the logs 18:59 * boegel is back 19:00 boegel pdurbin: Torque has a (dummy) scheduler too, but its rubbish 19:00 boegel pdurbin: there's Maui too, which is the open-source version of MOAB 19:00 pdurbin ah. yeah i was wondering if there was some lesser built in feature 19:00 boegel pdurbin: it's sufficient for small systems, where you don't need to be fancy stuff 19:00 boegel pdurbin: but in the end, you probably end up with MOAB 19:00 boegel pdurbin: I think Torque only features a FIFO scheduler 19:01 pdurbin hmm. ok 19:01 boegel pdurbin: Maui is reasonable, but badly supported 19:02 pdurbin it's 2012. you're a new HPC shop. you need a scheduler. what do you use? go :) 19:04 boegel I've never seen anything but Torque+MOAB 19:04 boegel so I'd go for that 19:04 boegel they're really good, but not free of problems 19:05 boegel Torque 4.x is a rewrite of 3.x, and we've had some issues with that, but it still works pretty good 19:05 pdurbin cool. thanks 20:55 pdurbin shuff: email is where knowledge goes to die according to http://bfrench.info/public/item/5994 - https://plus.google.com/107770072576338242009/posts/16X8Hoq2eGk 23:04 Itkovian pdurbin: actually, iirc, Torque does come with a pretty simple default scheduler or something that tries to be a scheduler -- we're using that when we had an issue with Moab on a clusters that's in pilot -- not sure if it does anything besides FIFO :-)