Time Nick Message 13:03 pdurbin a VM with 256MB Memory, 1 Core, 20GB Disk, and unlimited bandwidth for $5 per month: https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing 13:03 pdurbin semiosis: maybe we could get a vm for crimsonfu after all: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/crimsonfu/2012-09-06#i_5967928 14:57 pdurbin overheard: "only about 1500 hosts have checked in with it" 15:01 pdurbin the Dynamic Network System (DYNES), a nationwide cyber-instrument spanning about 40 US universities and 11 Internet2 connectors - http://www.internet2.edu/ion/dynes.html 15:15 semiosis pdurbin: interesting. 15:16 semiosis an ec2 tiny instance running 100% of the time for 3 years, at the 3 year reserved price, works out to about 6.50/mo 15:18 pdurbin semiosis: so pretty cheap. cool 15:19 semiosis my ec2 free tier is about to expire so i've been thinking about doing the reserved capacity thing 15:20 pdurbin crimsonfubot: lucky ec2 reserved capacity 15:20 crimsonfubot pdurbin: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/reserved-instances/ 15:20 semiosis executive summary: you make an upfront payment which gets you a reduced hourly rate for 1 or 3 years 15:23 pdurbin thanks 18:30 JoeJulian http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49147152/ns/business-us_business 18:34 pdurbin some guy in #gluster just said he saw this bug with ovirt: Bug 835920 – 3.1 - vdsm - beta1 PosixFS: after reconstruct, data-center is UP and storage is unknown (stuck) - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=835920 19:52 pdurbin comptona: when you get a chance, i'd love to hear more about your use case(s) for openstack. ec2-style compute? probably not a replacement for traditional vmware... http://irclog.perlgeek.de/crimsonfu/2012-09-10#i_5977256 20:32 pdurbin agoddard and whorka: our 2 factor auth. now on github: https://github.com/fasrc/openauth . as of a couple days ago. not sure how stable it is. if i'd consider this an official release, i mean. keep an eye on this guy: https://github.com/jabrcx?tab=activity :) 20:35 whorka thanks for that. I'm still a little confused though. Can you explain how this provides a second factor for authentication -- how it is something the user "has" rather than something the user "knows"? 20:46 agoddard pdurbin: nice :D 21:10 pdurbin_m whorka: it's just like Google's 2 factor auth 21:11 pdurbin_m the thing you have is a personalized app on your phone or laptop 21:13 whorka so how is that app personalized and what prevents its duplication? 21:13 comptona pdurbin: there's a couple of use cases we had in mind 21:14 comptona one was the standard physical-to-virtual migration; we have a lot of small services (wiki, issue tracker, etc.) all crammed together on various boxes 21:14 comptona the idea is to give each service its own VM 21:14 comptona the other big one was integration with our build systems 21:16 comptona I've written a script for Jenkins that takes generated RPMs and scp's them to a shiny new instance of whatever type is appropriate, attempts to install them, and then reports the output and exit code back to Jenkins 21:16 comptona I'm also working out how to tie in our puppet infrastructure so we can spin up a new instance and test any puppet changes we would make 21:17 ventz can someone give me real experience info behind freenas vs openfiler 21:17 ventz openfiler looks like the better choice for "enterprisy" NFS 21:18 ventz but freenas offers some better FS+compression+raid 21:18 ventz also, openfiler's UI is hundreds times better it looks like 21:19 shuff buy a NetApp, you cheapskate :) 21:21 ventz hehe 21:22 ventz shuff: we need it for very minimum NFS (home dirs for a few users) 21:22 ventz if anything, it would be the equallogic export head, but not work the 30K or w/e they are 21:22 pdurbin_m whorka: with a secret key per user that only the user knows 21:22 whorka AFAICT the Google Authenticator "secret key" is really the cryptographic secret involved in Google's "2 step" auth... but is there anything that bars two clients from using the same secret key, or could it in fact be intercepted and loaded onto another device? 21:23 pdurbin_m you should treat your secret key with the same care as your password 21:24 whorka ah, so that's why Google calls it "2 step" instead of "2 factor". It's just another secret piece of data. :( 21:24 semiosis when google sends you a one-time key via sms, that's more like 2-factor 21:25 pdurbin_m uhh. hard to convince you from a phone :) 21:25 pdurbin_m agoddard has used it 21:26 pdurbin_m comptona: thanks. let's pick this up later 21:27 pdurbin_m whorka: would you feel better if it were a key fob? 21:28 whorka only if the key fob had the secret data embedded by the factory, so that the possibility of duplication by MitM was negligible.