Time Nick Message 05:02 * jimi_c <3's google analytics 05:03 jimi_c someone at cisco really likes reading cobbler docs :) 12:45 pdurbin jimi_c: yeah? 12:48 jimi_c yeah, like 300+ page views in the last month :) 12:48 jimi_c rackerhacker: in case you haven't seen this yet: http://www.slashgear.com/swiss-federal-railways-accuses-apple-of-copying-its-clock-design-21248837/ 12:48 jimi_c good to see Jobs' legacy living on 12:50 pdurbin there was a great blog post about apple copying designs from some electronics company from the 80s. i forget which. braun, maybe? yeah 12:50 pdurbin 1960s Braun Products Hold the Secrets to Apple's Future - http://gizmodo.com/343641/1960s-braun-products-hold-the-secrets-to-apples-future 12:50 pdurbin 60s 12:53 rackerhacker jimi_c: yeah, i caught that somewhere ;) 13:00 rackerhacker i'm still having some hitches on android, but overall i'm kinda enjoying the experience 13:21 * jimi_c sends in patches for authentication for kibana: https://github.com/jimi1283/Kibana 13:21 jimi_c and then /me goes to dayjob 14:47 JoeJulian just mentioned rackerhacker and discovered he wasn't there... :( 14:47 rackerhacker oops 14:47 JoeJulian I hate waking up to find that the yum-cron (nods to rackerhacker) has updated my glusterfs packages and all my servers are down. :( 14:48 rackerhacker trying to reduce my channel count :P 14:48 JoeJulian I understand. 14:48 pdurbin rackerhacker: in irssi do something like this: /set activity_hide_targets freenode/#salt freenode/#openstack freenode/#vim freenode/##infra-talk freenode/#cobbler per http://wiki.greptilian.com/irssi/ 14:49 pdurbin or use /ignore :) 14:51 rackerhacker i haven't tickled activity_hide_targets before 14:52 pdurbin sjoeboo: so we'll use `salt -C 'G@vlan:375' test.ping` for not per http://irclog.perlgeek.de/salt/2012-09-20#i_6005457 14:53 sjoeboo for now 15:10 pdurbin i'm gonna be sad if nobody gets this reference: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/salt/2012-09-21#i_6007552 15:15 JoeJulian Narwhals! Narwhals! 15:20 pdurbin heh 15:46 pdurbin SNMPv2c is better than the alternative, i hear 16:52 semiosis rackerhacker: saw your troubles with lenovo on twitter & wondering why you went with the samsung? did you look at the asus zenbook prime? 16:53 semiosis (i'm looking for an ultrabook too and leaning toward the asus) 16:54 rackerhacker semiosis: i saw pretty good reviews for the series 9 and i have a friend with one 16:54 rackerhacker supposedly linux support is quite good 16:54 semiosis gotcha, thx 16:57 rackerhacker i didn't consider the asus, actually 17:01 semiosis it's pretty sweet 17:03 semiosis though tbh linux support is not very mature yet because the hardware is so new. things have been progressing quickly in the last couple months since it was released so it's looking better & better all the time 17:04 rackerhacker well i was really excited about lenovo but the delays were hard to deal with 17:04 semiosis yeah that sounded painful 17:04 rackerhacker and you get the bait and switch after you buy 17:04 rackerhacker they say one thing on the sales page and then you get a totally different date after purchase 17:04 rackerhacker and the date moves all over the place 17:05 rackerhacker my samsung laptop got caught up in a shipping delay but i hope to see it today 17:06 semiosis nice! how long before you wipe it & install ubuntu? 17:08 rackerhacker well it will be wiped immediately, but fedora will probably go on it ;) 17:08 semiosis lol 17:08 semiosis i know, i know 17:13 pdurbin don't even talk to me about lenovo. so grumpy. thank goodness i still have a few weeks left on my warranty: https://plus.google.com/107770072576338242009/posts/Hb8qfjoRVSZ 17:15 semiosis all three of my laptops have been dell outlet refurbs and i've been really really happy with them 17:16 semiosis but next one is probably going to be the asus ux32vd, ordering from amazon :) 17:16 semiosis w/ aftermarket ram & ssd upgrades, oh yeah 17:16 semiosis total macbook air killer 17:18 pdurbin just bought a nexus 7. made by asus. it's great 17:19 semiosis cool i've heard they're great 17:19 pdurbin i linked up my post about it the other day 17:32 JoeJulian I need a new laptop too. I'm still running a really old Fujitsu with a Centrino Duo. Damn thing's been bulletproof though. 17:34 shuff a.working.laptop.is.a.wonderful.thing 17:35 pdurbin shuff: shut up :) 17:43 pdurbin spotted: "I love the smell of collaboration" 17:48 pdurbin speak of the devil 18:13 pdurbin logstash or graylog2 + elasticsearch? http://irclog.perlgeek.de/crimsonfu/2012-04-13#i_5438597 18:14 rackerhacker pdurbin: just put it all in mysql 18:17 agoddard rackerhacker: ohai :) what would the path be from, say, web server logs to mysql? 18:17 rackerhacker agoddard: i was mainly just trolling pdurbin :) 18:17 agoddard rackerhacker: lulz 18:19 rackerhacker these people with their loud cars and trucks keep making me think the UPS guy is here 18:20 agoddard drive around the block till you spot him and then flag him down :) it's worked for me once before 18:20 rackerhacker the moment i do that he will show up waiting for a sig 18:20 rackerhacker :) 18:20 agoddard true :) 18:21 rackerhacker i'm still giggling about this http://www.nickwoodhams.com/post/31988005655 18:22 agoddard hahaha, wth 18:23 agoddard oops. I lol'd and then glanced over to my iphone5 box thinking I should probably figure out how to activate the thing soon ;) 18:25 agoddard pdurbin: you could have logstash spread out everywhere, collecting, listening on syslog, doing crazy stuff, filtering, storing archives, and then you could dump it all into graylog2, or into elasticsearch and throw kibana on top, or both, or filter it and send some stuff to graylog2, etc etc 18:26 pdurbin agoddard: so... use everything. ok :) 18:26 pdurbin PaxIndustria: aren't you trying to sell us on splunk? 18:26 agoddard pdurbin: or at the end you could (using logstash) just dump it all to a dot matrix printer and have all the logs pile up in a room full of paper.. 18:28 pdurbin :) 18:29 * pdurbin tries to debug openauth 18:29 pdurbin heh. "If [redacted] Then the user is just confused and hasn't even setup openauth yet." 18:31 PaxIndustria Not sure *sell* is the right word, we have it, we like it, it's got a huge set of features, a wonderful interface, and so far, I haven't seen anything besides cost which compels me to switch… 18:32 PaxIndustria I love that there are other products in the space though, and I think it'll make Splunk cheaper in the long run (I sure hope) 18:32 PaxIndustria and make all of the products better I suspect 18:36 pdurbin PaxIndustria: is open source vs. proprietary a consideration? 18:37 * pdurbin reads "Interpret the time skew issues if present." 18:40 PaxIndustria pdurbin: Sure, but I wouldn't discount a good tool, especially if I thought it was the best in show just because it's not FLOSS 18:41 pdurbin PaxIndustria: yeah, me neither 18:41 pdurbin especially if it's paid for already 18:45 PaxIndustria does anyone have suggestions for service for free shell accounts? 18:47 pdurbin PaxIndustria: http://pdurbin.freeshell.org 18:50 pdurbin PaxIndustria: that's hosted from here: SDF Public Access UNIX System - Free Shell Account and Shell Access - http://sdf.lonestar.org 19:03 pdurbin of tokens and codes #openauth 19:19 pdurbin huh. github redesign. so glad the icon at https://github.com/crimsonfu looks ok. need to fix the one at https://github.com/fasrc 19:42 pdurbin correction. of keys and codes #namechange 19:48 shuff pdurbin: i'm late to the party, but try http://search.cpan.org/dist/ApacheLog-Parser/ -> http://search.cpan.org/dist/Log-Dispatch-DBI/ 19:48 shuff anyway, i'm out - have a good weekend all! 19:56 * pdurbin reads http://code.google.com/p/google-authenticator/source/browse/libpam/README 20:08 pdurbin ok. i'm convinced. should be "16 character secret key" and "6 digit verification code". https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6238 uses the term "key". it also uses "OTP" (One-Time Password) a lot. and sometimes (confusingly) the word "token" for the OTP. google calls it a "verfication code". 6 digits 20:10 pdurbin that probably makes no sense :( 20:10 pdurbin there are two things 20:12 pdurbin 1. a 6 digit verification code. that's what google calls it. RFC 6238 calls it a OTP (One-Time Password) a lot and sometimes a token. I think we should match google and call it a "verfication code". it's the 6 digit code your phone shows you 20:15 pdurbin 2. a 16 character secret key. users often don't even see this or know it exists but each user ("prover" in RFC 6238) has one. it's known on the server side as well, where it's often called a shared secret or key. "K and C represent the shared secret and counter value"