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00:39 pdurbin_m ah, here it is. it ends with "no pressure though" http://archive.boasas.com/?c=1066
13:22 pdurbin semiosis: does this help explain what i mean by autovivification? http://danceb.in/PH04me344RG1w6gl9DNYg
15:09 pdurbin hate to change topics (where is semiosis?) but this was handy: All Codes (by Rajnish Bhatia): Active Directory userAccountControl Values - http://rajnishbhatia19.blogspot.com/2008/11/active-directory-useraccountcontrol.html see also How to use the UserAccountControl flags to manipulate user account properties - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305144
15:10 pdurbin oh, and check out my new bullets as favicons: http://greptilian.com :) https://github.com/pdurbin/pdurbin.github.com/commit/f3f12212f6808e679432ee39c8519dc05f0927e1
15:11 pdurbin (yes, there's a crimsonfu favicon) :)
15:55 ventz http://vpetkov.net/cgi-bin/bs.cgi
15:55 ventz (took the list of words from here: http://www.dack.com/web/bullshit.html)
16:03 pdurbin "strategize efficient vortals" :)
16:04 pdurbin crimsonfubot: lucky vortal
16:04 crimsonfubot pdurbin: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/V/vortal.html
16:16 ironcamel semiosis, pdurbin, here is my autovivification contribution :) with ruby/python/perl example http://danceb.in/xC8SzAX54RGIgggl9DNYg
17:13 pdurbin ironcamel: very useful example. thanks. looks like ruby and python require more typing than perl
17:15 ironcamel pdurbin: yes, but only when the structure of your data is dynamic
17:16 pdurbin mmm, dynamic languages
17:17 ironcamel sometimes structures are predefined, like you know you will have a list of lists, but it could be dynamic as well, like modeling xml/html dom using native data structures
17:18 pdurbin for one off stuff like this i like the flexibility perl gives me to not worry about what the structure will be back when i'm declaring my variables
17:18 ironcamel yep
17:20 ironcamel you probably already know this, but you can for example do h = { "aaa": { "bbb" : 42 } } when you declare h. but as i said, that requires you to know the structure beforehand.
17:24 pdurbin ironcamel: do you mean this? my $h = { "aaa" => { "bbb" => 42 } };
17:24 ironcamel i was showing you a python example
17:25 ironcamel don't quote keys! you lose coolness points
17:25 pdurbin ah. ok. yes. works fine. that's perfectly reasonable
17:25 pdurbin but it doesn't work in ruby?
17:25 ironcamel sure it does
17:26 ironcamel h = { :aaa => { :bbb => 42 } }
17:27 pdurbin ok. awesome
17:28 ironcamel $h = { aaa => { bbb => 42 } } # for completeness :)
17:28 pdurbin :)
17:28 pdurbin i started with your quoting, which we need for python :)
17:29 pdurbin so maybe i'll all set with python and ruby hashes. not sure about arrays though...
17:29 pdurbin i'm
18:58 pdurbin always nice to get a "thanks" http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-virt/2012-September/003004.html
19:18 pdurbin trying to give wordpress a chance but i think i hate it
19:19 * semiosis back
19:21 pdurbin semiosis: yay. write me some ruby, please. a hash of arrays from the __DATA__ above
19:21 semiosis haha
19:21 pdurbin what? :)
19:22 semiosis which data?
19:24 pdurbin http://danceb.in/PH04me344RG1w6gl9DNYg#L-171
19:24 pdurbin and here's the expected output: http://danceb.in/PH04me344RG1w6gl9DNYg#L-38
19:24 pdurbin you can output it in pretty printed JSON. will look close enough :)
19:25 agoddard http://danceb.in/WoxuBh354RGIgggl9DNYg < but I have a lot of mixed feelings
19:26 agoddard I think I kinda went half way between copying the style of the original, and doing it the (right?) way in ruby? ;)
19:27 pdurbin agoddard: this is fascinating. thanks!
19:28 agoddard (I don't mean "right" was as in ruby vs. perl btw, I mean the way a real ruby developer would prolly do it (moar manipulating the object made from the input data, less repeating the same loops)
19:28 pdurbin sure. the pythonic way, but for ruby. whatever that's called
19:28 semiosis my ruby would look more like java. agoddard wins
19:28 semiosis :)
19:29 semiosis but, if it's java you wanted :)
19:29 agoddard :D it was a fun little break from my capistrano cron stuff, which ended up just needing me to step away from it for a few mins until the solution was obvious
19:29 agoddard :D my java would look like a (really long) stack trace
19:29 semiosis lol
19:29 agoddard http://t-a-w.blogspot.com/2006/07/autovivification-in-ruby.html < that was interesting too, on the subject
19:30 pdurbin yikes. "On the other hand in lesser languages like Python"
19:31 agoddard ha.. freakin programmers..
19:31 ironcamel thats impressive how easy it is to add autovivifying to ruby
19:31 pdurbin ironcamel: but does it handle arrays?
19:32 ironcamel looks like it
19:32 ironcamel oh, nvm
19:32 * agoddard has to go over to the server room to check his RAID formatting.. geeerggh
19:32 ironcamel looks like it doesn't
19:33 agoddard I don't think it would be tough to implement something similar for arrays..
19:33 agoddard bbiab
19:33 ironcamel easy enough to test ...
19:34 pdurbin yeah. writing a vpn doc though. openconnect ftw. down with cisco anyconnect
19:35 ironcamel pdurbin: looks like it doesn't work with arrays
19:35 pdurbin right. figured...
19:35 ironcamel agoddard: but would it be easy to make it work for both hashes and arrays, i wonder
19:36 ironcamel pdurbin: have i pitched vim-script-runner to you before?
19:36 pdurbin maybe. would have to search
19:36 ironcamel makes it really easy to test this kind of stuff
19:37 ironcamel just write some code in a vim buffer, hit F5 (can be changed), and it runs the script and shows that output in the bottom
19:38 pdurbin hmm. me likely. the idea anyway
19:38 pdurbin sounds emacs-y
19:39 pdurbin ok, url and content subject to change... http://rc.fas.harvard.edu/kb/vpn/from-linux-clients/
19:39 ironcamel pdurbin: https://github.com/ironcamel/vim-script-runner
19:44 pdurbin oooo, it's an ironcamel special! you probably have mentioned it...
19:45 pdurbin mmm, pathogen
20:08 larsks b 1
20:08 larsks ...whoops...
20:46 pdurbin Twitter / jamesdotcuff: Research Computing recommends ... - https://twitter.com/jamesdotcuff/status/244174083934257152 #openconnect