Time Nick Message 14:09 pdurbin anyone here do snapshots of qcow2 disk images? with `qemu-img snapshot -c mysnapshot`? on your KVM virtualization platform? 14:12 tychoish no. 14:12 tychoish haha, sorry :) 14:12 tychoish I switched IRC clients and so I've not yet mastered ignoring all the channels I used to ignore 14:15 pdurbin tychoish: you can check out my handy guide on how to avoid letting irc distract you :) http://wiki.greptilian.com/irssi 14:15 tychoish I'm switching from IRC :p 14:15 tychoish err 14:15 tychoish irssi 14:16 pdurbin to what? 14:34 tychoish erc+znc 14:36 semiosis znc \o/ 14:40 tychoish ooh 14:40 tychoish maybe you can answer my questions 14:40 tychoish how does connecting multiple times with different clients affect PM mesage delivery? 14:40 tychoish message 14:44 semiosis never really tried that, but we can do a test right now... let me connect another client 14:45 semiosis ok i have two clients connected. pm me 14:47 * pdurbin reads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ERC_%28software%29 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZNC . emacs... 15:03 tychoish how'd that work? 15:06 semiosis i got the pms on both clients 15:10 pdurbin one of you guys needs to write up an irc survival guide for us :) 15:12 semiosis i dont get fancy with irc, beyond using znc which was pretty simple. i just have Konversation connected to ZNC and very rarely ever use a 2nd client -- only when i'm on the road (very rare) 15:14 semiosis interesting, though not surprising, observation: messages to channel from one client appear in channel on the other client, but messages in pm to tychoish from one client aren't echoed back to the other client 15:14 pdurbin i just keep irssi running in a screen session on a server 15:15 pdurbin and occasionally use irc999 on iphone or andchat on android 15:15 semiosis pdurbin: i used to do that back in the days with bitchx 15:15 semiosis also... screen? not tmux? 15:16 semiosis i still use screen too, but seems like all the cool kids have switched to tmux 15:16 pdurbin even for a newbie like me, setting up the #crimsonfu channel wasn't hard. i documented it here: crimsonfu freenode IRC channel setup - http://crimsonfu.github.com/2012/02/06/crimsonfu-freenode-irc-channel-setup.html 15:16 pdurbin i've heard of tmux :) 15:18 tychoish tmux includes some extra special memory leak features 15:18 tychoish so you can be sure that you're getting full use out of your system 15:18 tychoish pdurbin 15:19 tychoish I used to do the irssi-screen thing, and I'm not opposed, I just... find it clunky on some connections 15:19 pdurbin and i could use gentoo if i really wanted to get the full use out of my system ;) 15:19 tychoish it's great if you're sitting still all day, but yeah... 15:19 tychoish there is that 15:19 semiosis tychoish: heard of mosh? http://mosh.mit.edu/ 15:19 tychoish yeah 15:19 tychoish I have 15:20 tychoish that doesn't really fix the underlying problem 15:20 tychoish I mean, a little 15:20 semiosis oh i thought it would be great for just that situation 15:20 tychoish it probably would 15:20 tychoish I've played with it a little, and it didn't feel too rebust 15:24 tychoish and I already have a vpn/server/etc set up so it's not super critical, I guess 15:24 tychoish we'll see 15:24 tychoish adjustment is hard 15:47 tychoish semiosis what do you do about twitter? 15:48 semiosis twitter.com & the twitter android app 15:52 * tychoish nods 17:43 JoeJulian I use znc a lot (people were getting annoyed with me having 3 different nicks in #gluster so I could stay logged in all the time). I use xchat on my linux boxes and AndChat on my android devices (not a recommendation though, just haven't taken the time to try anything else). 17:51 tychoish yeah I feel like there's never a good time to change these things 17:52 pdurbin exactly 17:56 tychoish ironically the thing this was supposed to do off the bat, it had the inverse effect 17:58 tychoish which is to say, it's made me more attached to my laptop and not less 18:17 pdurbin perl perl perl. time for a late lunch! 18:23 tychoish heh 18:41 pdurbin my ($stdout, $stderr, $success, $exit_code) = capture_exec( @cmd ); 18:41 pdurbin from http://search.cpan.org/dist/IO-CaptureOutput/ via How do you capture stderr, stdout, and the exit code all at once, in Perl? - Stack Overflow - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/109124/how-do-you-capture-stderr-stdout-and-the-exit-code-all-at-once-in-perl 18:42 pdurbin maybe python and ruby do this out of the box. i don't know 18:46 pdurbin it's funny, i started by dinking with printf and thinking "let's see, how should i make this output look" and then i decided to just make the output YAML instead 18:48 tychoish thus begins the road to maddnes 18:48 pdurbin nah 18:48 pdurbin yaml and json are all good 18:51 tychoish at the very least, they're minimally bad 18:54 pdurbin tychoish: this opened by eyes to yaml and json: http://search.cpan.org/~sharyanto/App-SerializeUtils-0.02/lib/App/SerializeUtils.pm 18:54 pdurbin ironcamel: and http://search.cpan.org/dist/App-p 18:59 ironcamel pdurbin: what about it? 19:00 pdurbin love it love it. that is all :) 19:01 agoddard nice boat https://twitter.com/anthonygoddard/status/230366092684582912 19:02 ironcamel pdurbin: thanks :) 19:03 pdurbin agoddard: jealous 19:03 ironcamel agoddard: how do you know Eric Schmidt? 19:05 agoddard I wish I knew him, I'd ask him for a boat :) it's just docked at work 19:05 ironcamel and why does his both look like it's built out of plastic legos 19:05 ironcamel i thought you guys work at Harvard 19:06 pdurbin no no 19:06 pdurbin everyone is welcome 19:06 ironcamel agoddard: where do you work, if you don't mind saying 19:09 agoddard ironcamel: Woods Hole Marine Biological Lab 19:12 ironcamel wow, sounds like a super interesting place to work 19:12 agoddard ironcamel: http://www.mbl.edu < I was gonna *not* send that link 'cause the new website is to ghetto ;) 19:13 shuff woods hole! awesome :) 19:13 agoddard ya, it's works :) 19:26 agoddard ship metrics https://twitter.com/anthonygoddard/status/230383835362246656 19:39 pdurbin agoddard: nice 19:58 ironcamel btw, I like using http://p3rl.org/Capture::Tiny for capturing stdout and stderr in one shot 20:01 ironcamel that is generic. it captures stdout regardless of where it comes from. 20:02 ironcamel http://p3rl.org/IPC::Run for running system commands and dealing easily with stdin,stdout,stderr 20:05 pdurbin ironcamel: huh. also from dagolden. no exit code though 20:05 ironcamel $? 20:07 ironcamel This module was, inspired by IO::CaptureOutput, which provides similar functionality without the ability to tee output and with more complicated code and API. IO::CaptureOutput does not handle layers or most of the unusual cases described in the "Limitations" section and I no longer recommend it. 20:15 pdurbin ironcamel: huh. thanks! 20:19 pdurbin left a comment at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/109124/how-do-you-capture-stderr-stdout-and-the-exit-code-all-at-once-in-perl#comment15594788_109672 20:22 shuff ironcamel: App-p looks nifty :) 20:22 pdurbin shuff: it's amazing 20:23 shuff just finished packaging it (and a few missing dependencies) for Fink 20:27 pdurbin shuff: i see perl-Capture-Tiny in repoforge but not epel 20:28 shuff alas 20:28 shuff no repository is perfect 20:28 shuff YET 20:30 pdurbin :) 20:30 pdurbin "This program provides a simple REST-like interface to Nagios" -- https://github.com/xb95/nagios-api 20:31 pdurbin Dependencies include: diesel, greenlet and python-openssl bindings 20:37 pdurbin spowers: we're trying out writes to the new racktables api. seems to be working! 20:38 spowers oooooo 20:41 pdurbin we're just looking at the example from the mailing list 20:42 pdurbin this one: http://www.freelists.org/post/racktables-users/writing-a-restful-API-in-php-for-Racktables,16 20:42 pdurbin just make sure you get the latest version of api.php. the one he attached to that message 20:42 pdurbin might need to go to gmane to grab it 20:45 spowers so add_object seems to do the trick? that's great