Time Nick Message 12:08 SEJeff pdurbin, Are you asking the xfs question in gest or seriously? 12:32 pdurbin SEJeff: dead serious. but maybe it's an iSCSI or network problem. i haven't found the root cause of the failure yet 12:33 pdurbin i haven't really looked, though. busy weekend 12:34 pdurbin i was just thinking about where i want to squirrel away logs and such. should i make the RT ticket bloated by attaching logs? should i save the log somewhere on our nfs server. should i throw them in a git repo? i often default to git these days 12:42 SEJeff pdurbin, from my professional experience... 12:42 SEJeff xfs lacks a lot of limitations of ext3 12:43 SEJeff such as the 32k files per directory limit 12:43 SEJeff xfs is also extremely fast, however, xfs is very very poor at fault tolerance 12:44 SEJeff Meaning if you are writing to xfs and you pull the plug on the server, the filesystem has a high chance of corruption. Often repairable with fsck, but I am always wary of xfs as it has bitten me several times 12:44 SEJeff We used to use xfs on our Fusion IO cards 12:44 SEJeff never more 12:47 SEJeff And in general don't ever use xfs on our large volumes 13:02 pdurbin but "xfs is for lots or large" 13:04 pdurbin "If you have large or lots, use XFS" -- Val Aurora, LCA 2007 - page 2 of XFS: Adventures in Metadata Scalability http://xfs.org/index.php/Image:Xfs-scalability-lca2012.pdf 13:05 SEJeff 2007 != 2012 :) 13:05 SEJeff Val isn't a kernel dev anymore sadly. 13:05 SEJeff She is a women's rights advocate for the ADA Foundation. 13:08 pdurbin crimsonfubot: lucky ada foundation 13:08 crimsonfubot pdurbin: http://www.ada.org/applyforassistance.aspx 13:08 pdurbin crimsonfubot: google ada foundation 13:08 crimsonfubot pdurbin: ADA Foundation: <http://www.ada.org/applyforassistance.aspx>; ADA Foundation hires new executive director - American Dental ...: <http://www.ada.org/news/6017.aspx>; ADA Foundation accepting applications for Harris Fund grant ...: <http://www.ada.org/news/6884.aspx>; Scholarships & Loan Repayment - American Dental Association ...: <http://www.ada.org/2904.aspx>; ADA Foundation - American (1 more message) 13:15 pdurbin crimsonfubot: lucky ada initiative wikipedia 13:15 crimsonfubot pdurbin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Initiative 13:20 shuff google mechanical turk 13:20 crimsonfubot https://www.mturk.com/mturk/welcome 13:20 shuff nice 13:20 pdurbin whoa! you don't have to address crimsonfubot? 13:20 pdurbin lucky crimsonfu 13:21 pdurbin shuff: how are you doing that? 13:21 shuff direct message to crimsonfubot 13:21 pdurbin so... /query? or /msg? 13:22 shuff \/msg 13:22 shuff google irc commands 13:22 crimsonfubot http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/ircc-commands.html 13:23 pdurbin but i'm getting the response as a message... not in #crimsonfu... 13:26 shuff interesting! i wonder why 13:26 shuff why???? 13:28 pdurbin shuff: can you just type for me exactly what you're typing? 13:28 shuff '/msg crimsonfubot google irc commands' 13:31 pdurbin huh. i have no idea why the output doesn't stay in the channel for me. i'm using irssi, if it matters 13:33 SEJeff pdurbin, http://adainitiative.org 13:40 pdurbin You have successfully registered for 2012 Red Hat Summit & JBoss World. Please return to this site to view your current Event Summary or make changes to your registration at any time: https://www.redhatsummit2012.com 13:46 pdurbin anyone else going? 13:47 shuff hmmm 13:47 shuff i should see about that; i would like to go 13:48 shuff now that i am working in an environment with RHDS, i would like a bit more information about RHDS vs. RHIPA 13:51 pdurbin are you thinking about switching to RHIPA? 13:51 shuff i am thinking that i don't know enough to evaluate the options 13:52 pdurbin ok :) 13:53 pdurbin https://github.com/akoumjian/salty-vagrant 14:08 shuff google a/b testing 14:08 crimsonfubot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A/B_testing 14:51 magoo hoping someone can help shed some light on my provisioning weirdness this morning. One of our devs and myself went to rebuild our environment in vagrant and every debian package that is to be installed will fail with Hash Sum mismatch. 14:55 magoo this wasn't the case last week. Here's where it gets weird though: I can log onto the box and run apt-get update and then start the provisioning back up and it will move past the last package that didn't work but then fail on another package with the same error. Then I repeat the process all over to move past that one. 15:00 pdurbin magoo: i assume you don't have these problems with a vanilla vagrant debian/ubuntu base box 15:04 magoo pdurbin: yeah, it's only after chef starts running 15:04 pdurbin kiss the cook. blame the chef 15:05 magoo The odd thing is that I don't generally specify package versions in my cookbooks and the version is automatically added like so apt-get -q -y install couchdb=0.10.0-1ubuntu2 15:06 magoo if i pull off the version and do it manually, it's fine 15:06 magoo or I can run apt-get update and rerun the provisioning and it'll also work 15:06 magoo I'll go harrass the #chef guys now 15:11 pdurbin :) ok 15:11 pdurbin reading about xfs write caches: http://xfs.org/index.php/XFS_FAQ#Q%3a_What_is_the_problem_with_the_write_cache_on_journaled_filesystems.3F 15:44 magoo agoddard: you mind provisiong your vagrant chef box and seeing if you get similar results to above? 15:46 magoo i based my chef vm on street-chef so I imagine you will also run into these errors 15:58 SEJeff shuff, RHDS is a subset of RHIPA 15:58 SEJeff RHDS == the 389 directory server 15:58 SEJeff RHIPA == the 389 directory server with freeipa ontop. I have a good amount of experience with that team 15:58 SEJeff if you have any questions I might be able to help. fwiw, our company has the earliest big deployment of sssd... long before it was 1.0 and I was lead on that project 15:59 SEJeff maybe 2 or 3 years ago 16:01 SEJeff Both are derived from the netscape directory server codebase that redhat bought for 14 mill or so and subsequently open sauced 16:05 magoo agoddard: n/m, Ubuntu repos are having issues right now and they are aware of it 17:26 pdurbin o=NetscapeRoot