Time Nick Message 10:14 pdurbin hmm, this might work for me: edit-csv-as-yaml - http://git.veekun.com/pokedex.git/blob/HEAD:/bin/edit-csv-as-yaml 10:14 pdurbin i mean, it works 10:15 pdurbin but i changes my CSV files a bit. different than how open office saves them 11:17 pdurbin i'm pretty obsessed with this idea of storing data in plain text, in version control, in a parseable format 11:18 pdurbin sometimes my data is "square", it's tabular, so CSV is a good fit 11:18 pdurbin but it's a pain to edit CSV, if the fields are long, from my $EDITOR 11:19 pdurbin so i've been using openoffice to edit my CSV files 11:19 pdurbin but i'd really prefer to edit them from vim somehow 11:20 pdurbin or maybe there's something besides CSV i could use to store tabular data in plain text 11:42 pdurbin holy animated gif screencast: http://www.256bit.org/~chrisbra/csv.gif via csv.vim - A Filetype plugin for csv files. : vim online - http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2830 11:45 pdurbin ok, not to take away from my main point (tabular data in plain text), but this is awesome: How to create animated GIF images of a screencast? - Ask Ubuntu - http://askubuntu.com/questions/107726/how-to-create-animated-gif-images-of-a-screencast 13:17 pdurbin running: virt-v2v -ic 'esx://my-vmware-hypervisor.example.com' -os default --network default my-vm 13:19 pdurbin disk size is sloooowly growing, based on output of this: qemu-img info /var/lib/libvirt/images/my-vm_my-vm 13:32 SEJeff If it was that simple, that is pretty much magical 13:38 pdurbin disk size: 1.7G 13:38 pdurbin so slow though. i think it's going to be 20 GB 13:38 pdurbin at least, that's the size when i `ls` the disk image 13:39 pdurbin but still, yes, if it "just works" i'm going to be thrilled 13:39 pdurbin SEJeff: thanks again for reminding me about virt-v2v 13:39 pdurbin also, if this works. . . how is this different than vmotion storage or whatever? 13:40 pdurbin oh well, i guess i did shut down the vm i'm moving. that's pretty different :) 13:41 SEJeff pdurbin, If you use sheepdog, I'm not sure if vmotion is as good: http://www.osrg.net/sheepdog/ 13:42 pdurbin SEJeff: right, you've mentioned sheepdog before and i still haven't tried it. do you use it? 13:42 SEJeff Nope, one of my buddies swears by it however 13:42 pdurbin ok. cool 13:42 SEJeff Says it is much better than DRBD, which isn't all that surprising since DRBD is only for 2 nodes 13:42 SEJeff sheepdog is for +N really 13:42 pdurbin i mean, down the road, maybe i won't be working a this low a level. maybe we'll deploy openstack or ovirt or something 13:43 SEJeff For simple kvm vm management, Ganetti is good 13:43 pdurbin but that said, i've been amazed how much mileage i'm getting out of stock el6 13:43 SEJeff Lance Albertson swears by it 13:43 SEJeff http://www.lancealbertson.com/2010/05/creating-a-scalable-virtualization-cluster-with-ganeti/ 13:44 pdurbin purple link. i guess i've been here before. . . ganeti - Cluster-based virtualization management software - Google Project Hosting - http://code.google.com/p/ganeti/ 13:45 pdurbin "Enter Ganeti, an open source virtualization management platform created by Google engineers" 13:47 shuff oh hey, on this general topic, don't forget ConVirt: http://www.convirture.com/products_opensource.php 13:48 pdurbin "ConVirt Open Source is the leading open source product for managing Xen and KVM" sold! ;) 13:48 shuff just like ed is the standard text editor :) 13:48 pdurbin heh 13:48 pdurbin oh, shuff. SSL 13:49 pdurbin go look at yesterday's irc log 13:49 pdurbin and tell us about your ways 13:51 pdurbin disk size: 2.2G #slow 13:51 SEJeff shuff, Funny you mention Convirture, those guys came to present @ ticketmaster before they formally announced Convirture as a company 13:51 SEJeff It was called Convirt at the time and there was no company 13:52 SEJeff was not impressed with how they re-invented libvirt even after knowing about libvirt, but that was about 5 years ago, so their product has grown a lot since 13:52 shuff yup 13:53 shuff let me disclaim: we use vCenter over here 13:53 shuff but if were were not on ESX i would be looking at ConVirt 13:53 SEJeff There is another one, let me try to remember 13:54 SEJeff http://www.proxmox.com/products/proxmox-ve 13:54 shuff oh yeah, i remember that 13:54 SEJeff I know it is fantastic for setting up containers 13:54 magoo thought I'd share: http://www.ispsd.com/05/25-hd-cool-linux-wallpapers/ 13:55 shuff on and re: yesterday's SSL discussion, i have found https://www.cacert.org/ a good fit for my needs 13:55 SEJeff This is my current one, just because it makes me laugh: http://www.meh.ro/original/2010_04/meh.ro3824.png 13:56 magoo hahaha, and now it's mine 13:56 SEJeff But cacert isn't trusted by a lot of browsers and startssl is free :) 13:56 SEJeff startssl is trusted by all major browsers. However, cacert is doing good things 13:56 pdurbin cacert is not trusted by my browser 14:19 pdurbin my-vm_my-vm: 100% [====================================]D 0h17m35s 14:20 pdurbin that was never five minutes 14:20 pdurbin er, 17 minutes 14:20 pdurbin more like an hour and a half 14:20 pdurbin and virt-v2v still hasn't returned 14:21 pdurbin i know you guys are on the edge of your seats :) 14:21 pdurbin ah, disk size is increasing rapidly now 14:22 pdurbin was stuck at 2.6 GB for a long time. now 8.9 GB 14:22 pdurbin 9.7 GB 14:30 pdurbin disk size: 15G 14:30 pdurbin SEJeff: that is a funny background 14:34 pdurbin 10:34:14 up 57 days, 17:48, 2 users, load average: 27.01, 19.15, 10.79 14:34 pdurbin virt-v2v is kind of killing this hypervisor. glad i picked one that isn't hosting anything critical 14:35 pdurbin public apology to web developer eric: yes, your dev vm is important :) 14:46 pdurbin disk size: 20G 14:47 pdurbin come on, virt-v2v, i know you want to return! 14:48 SEJeff pdurbin, If speed isn't an issue, next time try ionice -c3 nice -n +19 virt-v2v ... 14:49 pdurbin virt-v2v: No root device found in this operating system image. 14:50 pdurbin i need to use a separate storage pool. it's what the docs recommend anyway 14:57 pdurbin ran yum install libguestfs-winsupport 14:57 * pdurbin kicks self 15:00 pdurbin "If you attempt to convert a virtual machine using NTFS without the libguestfs-winsupport package installed, the conversion will fail." -- http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/V2V_Guide/sect-V2V_Guide-Configuration_Changes-Configuration_Changes_for_Windows_Virtual_Machines.html 15:01 SEJeff Oh sadness 15:06 pdurbin "No package virtio-win available." from `yum install virtio-win` on centos 6. . . 15:06 SEJeff I think you have to download that separate 15:06 SEJeff I've seen someone else chat about that. Something about having to get msft to sign their driver for it 15:06 pdurbin SEJeff: have to rebuild it myself? 15:07 pdurbin some discussion here: [CentOS-virt] virtio-win for c6? - http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-virt/2011-July/002491.html 15:07 SEJeff Ah nice 15:07 SEJeff Surprised that isn't in epel 15:08 SEJeff At least some easier way to install it 15:08 pdurbin yeah. i need an SRPM or some such 15:10 SEJeff http://www.linux-kvm.com/content/latest-windows-virtio-drivers 15:10 SEJeff Looks like you can get them from the comments of that page 15:10 pdurbin "The virtio-win component is only available via the Red Hat Network, and is not included on the physical Supplementary CD for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.4" -- http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.4/release-notes/ 15:11 SEJeff http://rghost.net/3412907 15:25 pdurbin some more info on this Windows business: Paps the Virtualization/Cloud Plumber: Setting up RedHat Virtio Drivers for Windows Guest on KVM - http://rcritical.blogspot.com/2011/01/seeting-up-redhat-virtio-driver-for.html 15:25 pdurbin heh. paps 15:29 pdurbin and more: www.centos.org - Forums - CentOS 6 - General Support - KVM with VIRTIO.. argh! - http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=36117&forum=55 15:35 pdurbin "For a Windows guest, it is necessary to install the latest virtio drivers into the guest OS" -- http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Virtio links to http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/WindowsGuestDrivers/Download_Drivers links to https://github.com/YanVugenfirer/kvm-guest-drivers-windows links to http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/WindowsGuestDrivers 15:37 pdurbin holy long thread here: [Libguestfs] Virtio-win RPM? - https://www.redhat.com/archives/libguestfs/2011-November/msg00082.html 15:37 pdurbin "I tried migrating a physical Windows host last night using virt-p2v CD. It ran for 3 hours and then died. I’ll get details later from the log but as I think about it, I’ll bet it died because I never installed virtio-win in my Fedora migration server." 15:40 pdurbin "The RHEL virtio-win RPM installs just fine in Fedora; I hope Fedora will find a way to officially include it soon." -- Re: [Libguestfs] Virtio-win RPM? - https://www.redhat.com/archives/libguestfs/2011-November/msg00148.html 15:43 pdurbin `yum install virtio-win` doesn't work on my fedora 16 box. "No package virtio-win available" just like this guy with fedora 14: Re: [Libguestfs] Virtio-win RPM? - https://www.redhat.com/archives/libguestfs/2011-November/msg00092.html 15:45 pdurbin "I've had good luck using F14 as a P2V server" -- Re: [Libguestfs] Virtio-win RPM? - https://www.redhat.com/archives/libguestfs/2011-November/msg00099.html 15:46 shuff people on the internet are making contradictory statements? the deuce you say! 15:46 pdurbin wait, what is p2v. i though i was running virt-v2v 15:47 pdurbin virt-p2v-server (1) - Receive data from virt-p2v 15:50 pdurbin ok, at least this guy has some virt-v2v in the output he's posting. and says "The Fedora documentation says we need to do yum install virtio-win, but no such package apparently exists." -- Re: [Libguestfs] Virtio-win RPM? - https://www.redhat.com/archives/libguestfs/2011-November/msg00117.html 15:52 pdurbin a decent summary and "what do folks without a RHEL subscription do? (Spend some money and buy one?)" -- Re: [Libguestfs] Virtio-win RPM? - https://www.redhat.com/archives/libguestfs/2011-November/msg00118.html 15:54 pdurbin oh good. "libguestfs-winsupport is only applicable to RHEL 6. Support for Windows is built directly into the base libguestfs packages everywhere else." Re: [Libguestfs] Virtio-win RPM? - https://www.redhat.com/archives/libguestfs/2011-November/msg00122.html from this guy: http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-p2v 15:57 pdurbin greg scott making progress, guess. . installed virtio-win rpm from el6 onto fedora 16. but further dependency problems, unsurprisingly -- Re: [Libguestfs] Virtio-win RPM? - https://www.redhat.com/archives/libguestfs/2011-November/msg00119.html 15:58 pdurbin "firstboot.bat is supposed to be distributed with v2v, but wasn't at some point due to a packaging bug. The other 2 are distributed with RHEL. If you have access to RHEL, the simplest thing to do would be to extract them from v2v RPM and copy them into the same place (rpm2cpio will be your friend here)." -- Re: [Libguestfs] Virtio-win RPM? - https://www.redhat.com/archives/libguestfs/2011-November/msg00121.html 15:59 pdurbin special builds from a red hat engineer: Re: [Libguestfs] Virtio-win RPM? - https://www.redhat.com/archives/libguestfs/2011-November/msg00124.html 15:59 pdurbin all this talk of a "fedora conversion server" 16:01 pdurbin heh. rjones says "don't do that" Re: [Libguestfs] Virtio-win RPM? - https://www.redhat.com/archives/libguestfs/2011-November/msg00131.html 16:02 pdurbin "No. The missing files can't be distributed with Fedora. You'll need to extract them manually from a V2V rpm from RHEL." -- Re: [Libguestfs] Virtio-win RPM? - https://www.redhat.com/archives/libguestfs/2011-November/msg00134.html 16:04 pdurbin "We just did a successful Windows P2V using the various software pieces Matt and Richard set up. Fredy is running this VM in a RHEV environment as I type this. I'll start a new thread with a how-to recipe for anyone else that needs to do a Windows P2V. Note that the Fedora docs are wrong because they don't mention those v2v files that cannot be distributed with Fedora. What's up with those files that they can't be distributed with Fedora anywa 16:04 pdurbin "Unfortunately the license on this file doesn't permit us to distribute it with Fedora." (rhev-apt.exe) Re: [Libguestfs] Virtio-win RPM? - https://www.redhat.com/archives/libguestfs/2011-November/msg00152.html 16:05 pdurbin hmm. "rhev-apt should be open sourced too. Not sure why it isn't ..." Re: [Libguestfs] Virtio-win RPM? - https://www.redhat.com/archives/libguestfs/2011-November/msg00155.html 16:05 pdurbin end of thread! ends with Bug 624950 – No firstboot.bat and rhev-apt.exe will make Windows conversion fail - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=624950 16:09 pdurbin [Libguestfs] Windows P2V migration temporary recipe - https://www.redhat.com/archives/libguestfs/2011-November/msg00147.html 16:10 pdurbin "virt-p2v converts physical machines to run on KVM. virt-v2v converts virtual machines from Xen and VMware hypervisors to run on KVM." -- http://libguestfs.org/virt-v2v/ 16:15 pdurbin westmaas: what's the story from openstack? is windows support built in? does conversion from vmware esx just work? 16:16 westmaas pdurbin: windows hosts? or windows vms? 16:17 westmaas guests! 16:17 * westmaas reads pdurbin's novel 17:35 pdurbin westmaas: sorry for the novel 17:36 pdurbin installed that libguestfs-winsupport rpm. gonna re-jigger my storage pools and try migrating this windows vm again 17:39 westmaas pdurbin: I don't think theres anything about openstack that needs to be done special 17:40 westmaas however, you may need to figure out how to make sure you get scheduled onto a host that supports that os 17:41 westmaas that part I get a little hazy on because its a scheduler decision, and we have our own scheduler for lots of other reasons 17:41 pdurbin ok 18:15 pdurbin virt-v2v: Installation failed because the following files referenced in the configuration file are required, but missing: /usr/share/virtio-win/drivers/amd64/Win2008 18:17 SEJeff|away Closer? 18:17 pdurbin SEJeff|away: different error at least :) 20:12 pdurbin so i'm pretty sure i can get everything i need from http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/virtio-win/latest/images/bin/virtio-win-0.1-22.iso