Time Nick Message
05:25 pdurbin just wrote our first blog post: http://crimsonfu.github.com/2012/01/30/introducing-crimsonfu.html
14:36 pdurbin got a nice crash course in python yesterday
14:36 pdurbin well, python/django. the two are conflated in my mind now
15:10 Pax oh yeah?
15:11 Pax I've been really digging python
15:47 pdurbin python seems really nice
15:47 pdurbin and i like how with django it's like you're building a command line app and then figuring out the presentation in a gui later. very unix-y
15:56 shuff here comes security
15:56 shuff everybody look busy
16:01 pdurbin ventz: welcome! we hope to attract a diverse membership, per my blog post above :)
18:12 ventz pdurbin: i am diverse membership? :)
18:14 shuff we have both types of music here
18:14 shuff country *and* western
18:14 * pdurbin sighs
18:15 pdurbin i think we're up to four different teams using puppet
18:21 sjoeboo so, I'm asking this in #puppet,but.....
18:21 sjoeboo facter -p operatingsystem
18:21 shuff yup?
18:21 sjoeboo give one result (cents, which is right)
18:21 sjoeboo however
18:21 sjoeboo a selector for that is coming up with "linux"
18:21 sjoeboo (which faster has for kernel value, which makes sense)
18:21 shuff hm
18:21 sjoeboo never seen this before
18:22 shuff code sample?
18:23 sjoeboo ruby_shadow_pkg = $operatingsystem ? {
18:23 sjoeboo 5 /(Ubuntu|Debian)/ => "libshadow-ruby1.8",
18:23 sjoeboo 6 /(CentOS|Redhat)/ => "ruby-shadow",
18:23 sjoeboo 7 }
18:23 sjoeboo Error 400 on SERVER: No matching value for selector param 'Linux' <snip> line 7
18:24 shuff huh
18:24 sjoeboo ugh, maybe i should use the newer syntax of $::operatingsystem...
18:24 shuff aha, good thought
18:24 pdurbin sjoeboo: that's what puppet-lint wants ;)
18:24 shuff is $operatingsystem a variable that gets set somewhere?
18:24 shuff that's clobbering your fact?
18:24 sjoeboo come from facter
18:24 sjoeboo no, shouldn't be..
18:25 shuff and what version of puppet/facter?
18:25 sjoeboo 2.7.9 master and client
18:28 shuff have you tried good old printf debugging? throw a `debug($operatingsystem)` right before that selector and see what shows up in the logs (or use a notify)?
18:33 sjoeboo hm, not working...
18:33 sjoeboo can't even finish retrieving catalog so the notify never fires on the client...
18:34 shuff the debug() (or a warn() or err()) should fire on the master during compilation and be visible in the master's logs
18:34 shuff you can run puppetmasterd in the foreground if you want to see absolutely everything
18:36 sjoeboo hm, still not seeing them, but its super chatty
18:38 sjoeboo yeah, nothing in logs for a notify, or notice
18:38 shuff i don't think there should be
18:38 shuff you really have to use a function like debug() or warn()
18:38 shuff which will log a message on the master when it is executed
18:42 sjoeboo negative
18:42 shuff weird
18:55 sjoeboo well, its getting redefined SOMEWHERE
18:55 sjoeboo info: Loading downloaded plugin /var/lib/puppet/lib/facter/vms-running.rb
18:55 sjoeboo CentOS
18:55 sjoeboo Could not retrieve operatingsystem: undefined method `match' for nil:NilClass
18:55 sjoeboo Linux
18:55 sjoeboo info: Loading facts in vms-running
18:55 sjoeboo Linux
18:55 sjoeboo info: Loading facts in n_mounts
18:55 sjoeboo info: Loading facts in compute_node
18:55 sjoeboo info: Loading facts in puppet_classes
18:55 sjoeboo info: Loading facts in lsf_queues
18:55 sjoeboo info: Loading facts in need_proxy
18:55 sjoeboo info: Loading facts in iptables
18:55 sjoeboo info: Loading facts in vms-running
18:55 sjoeboo Linux
18:55 sjoeboo thats the result of a single puts in accustom fact
18:55 shuff aha
18:56 sjoeboo firs time its good, then gets munged!
18:57 shuff what version of facter are you running?
18:57 sjoeboo 1.6.4
18:58 shuff i bet i know where the "Linux" is coming from
18:58 shuff from the bottom of /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/facter/operatingsystem.rb:
18:58 sjoeboo ?
18:58 sjoeboo hmmm
18:58 shuff Facter.add(:operatingsystem) do
18:58 shuff # Default to just returning the kernel as the operating system
18:58 shuff setcode do Facter[:kernel].value end
18:58 shuff end
18:59 shuff boom
18:59 shuff for some reason the prior attempt to populate that fact failed
18:59 shuff do you have some nonstandard permissions on /etc/redhat-release or something?
19:00 sjoeboo thats a symlink to centos-release
19:00 sjoeboo but thats
19:00 sjoeboo rw-r--r--
19:00 shuff looks fine
19:00 shuff here's the code that should be running:
19:00 shuff elsif FileTest.exists?("/etc/redhat-release")
19:00 shuff txt = File.read("/etc/redhat-release")
19:00 shuff if txt =~ /centos/i
19:00 shuff "CentOS"
19:00 shuff else
19:00 shuff "RedHat"
19:00 shuff end
19:02 sjoeboo and that should be fine, again,f after locally works just perfectly...
19:02 sjoeboo and seemingly does the first time...
19:03 shuff wtf
19:04 sjoeboo yum update faster and it works!
19:04 shuff :( :( :(
19:04 shuff boooooo facter
19:05 shuff what's the new version?
19:05 sjoeboo Jan 31 14:04:31 Updated: facter-1.6.5-1.el6.noarch
19:05 sjoeboo Added exception handling to the fact class. When adding a resolution to
19:05 sjoeboo a fact, if an exception was thrown outside of the setcode block, facter
19:05 sjoeboo would crash. Added handling so that if an exception is thrown, facter
19:05 sjoeboo logs the error and discards the fact
19:05 sjoeboo i think thats it
19:06 sjoeboo these checks were pre setcoe in a custom function
19:06 shuff haha
19:06 shuff i think that's it too
20:15 pdurbin anyone have a script for backing up KVM VMs?
20:17 agperson not as such, i had bacula run a script to snapshot the LVM volume and just straight back up the file…I think.
20:19 pdurbin hmm, and the LVM snapshot pauses the VM or whatever? gets a good, clean backup?
20:19 agperson well...
20:20 pdurbin let me put it this way. . . did a restore work?
20:20 agperson yeah, but I probably wouldn't do it that way for a database server
20:20 agperson i would rely more on the backup client on the VM itself, we were using backups of the disk images as a secondary form of backup
20:20 agperson the LVM snapshot ensures a consistent backup, but it doesn't quiesce the VM in any way first...
20:21 pdurbin interesting. thanks
21:34 pdurbin trying to convince sjoeboo to listen to FLOSS Weekly 191 about Salt ( http://saltstack.org ): http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/191
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21:34 pdurbin (Salt is full of ZeroMQ goodness, I hear)